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continued: Interview with
Khalid Abu Nuwar, General Manager, MultiChoice Egypt
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Sullivan: Showtime is planning to offer Internet and TV via PC services, Shownet
and Showcast, to subscribers. And Internet is big business now in Egypt, where
ISPs and Internet cafes are cropping up everywhere. Will you be a competitive
player?
Abu
Nuwar: We're infringing on their business. Put all the ISPs together in Egypt,
or the number of dialup subscriptions, and our number of pay-TV subscriptions
is higher. If we introduce Internet for our subscriber base, we'll be the biggest
ISP in Egypt as such, if we're successful.
Sullivan:
There's talk of CNE moving to digital terrestrial?
Abu
Nuwar: Yes, from the point of view of channel distribution that's an advantage,
whereby you have one terrestrial station and you can put on it 12 to 14 channels.
The operation cost is very advantageous. The problem is the price of the box.
It's more expensive than the satellite digital box, because of economy of scale;
the producers are concentrating on satellite. Not much analog terrestrial or digital
terrestrial is being produced, so the box price is comparatively expensive. So
if you tell customers, forget about satellite digital, go and buy your terrestrial
digital, in my opinion it won't fly.
In
the UKa more affluent societydigital terrestrial exists and is successful,
but it was introduced before digital satellite. Now there's a system whereby both
are the same: what you get on digital terrestrial is the same programming you
get on digital satellite.
Sullivan:
So for the customer it doesn't make a difference.
Abu
Nuwar: Right. But it's different here in Egypt. And the most important thing
is the price of the boxes. Somebody has to import them, and they'd have to be
heavily subsidized. Whereas on satellite, if you have a motorized dish you can
watch 36 satellites, and the equipment is becoming fairly cheap.
In
1997 satellite channels available in Egypt, analog and digital, totaled 388. In
2000 there are 606 channels, 393 of which are free-to-air, 213 are encrypted.
The Middle East is right in the middle of Europe, Africa, Asia, and whatever is
coming in from the United States to Europe. But the numbers of free-to-air analog
on satellite haven't changed. The analog technology isn't something people are
pushing. Whereas in 1997 there were 107 free-to-air digital; it exploded into
246 digital by 2000.
By
looking at this, you can see what we're up against. First there's the mindset
of people that you don't have to pay for television. And we're introducing pay-TV
at the same time that everyone else is introducing, on the same platform, more
free-to-air channels of good quality.
Sullivan:
While in the beginning people were paying for something they couldn't get for
free, like CNN, before other all-news channels became available. How has your
marketing strategy shifted, then, with competition from the free-to-air channels?
Abu
Nuwar: We don't go head-to-head against the free-to-air channels, which we
knew we couldn't compete with from the point of view of financing or distribution,
because they generate revenue from advertising, they're highly subsidized by very
rich governments, and they have a political agenda. They're here to stay. So we
tried to turn that to our advantage. We told customers, here's a highly subsidized
box, you can pay now or in installments, and on top of that this boxunlike
Orbit's, for example, which they haven't been able to upgrade yetgives you
access to all those free-to-air channels. It worked well. People are taking our
CNE decoder, subscribing to ART or Showtime or both, and enjoying all those free
channels from Nilesat as well. And now Nilesat 102 can potentially double the
number of channels they receive.
Sullivan:
What does it mean for you that Orbit is now allowed into the market to sell their
decoders?
Abu
Nuwar: They'll be legal competition against us in the market, and we welcome
that very much. Competition makes us even better operators. We become wiser, more
aggressive. Also, both Orbit and us spending more in competition means better
business for everybody, because it means more exposure of the pay-TV principle
in the market. It means there's twice the amount of money being spent to introduce
the public to pay-TV. And whoever has a better package will win. So even with
Orbit here we have a better chance to succeed.
The
strategy here is to ask bouquet providers to give us more programming at the same
price. Add value, but at the same price to the customer. With more programming
we build new promotional campaigns. And we're thinking into new territory, to
packaging different cross-promotions between ART and Showtime, or making relational
marketing with other fee-based operations like mobile phones. Mobile phones are
a booming business in Egypt, and we're plugging into that with joint promotions.
If, for example, you're a Mobinil subscriber you might get a discount on CNE,
or vice-versa. Or if you're not either, subscribe to both and get a discount on
both. We're already in talks to promote this kind of package.
Sullivan:
Working as you do with both ART and Showtime, you get the strengths of both-Arabic
programming, especially movies, on the one hand, and Western entertainment on
the other. How do they work together as a package?
Abu
Nuwar: They complement each other. Maybe you want a majority English programming,
but also want to get Egyptian movies. You can buy the basic ART bouquet along
with the full Showtime bouquet. Or vice-versa: you can subscribe to the full ART
bouquet, then add a mini bouquet of Showtime. There are people who only want only
one or the other, but also people who want a bit of both, so the packages have
been designed to take care of all those needs.
Sullivan:
Since you started there have been a lot of changes in the Egyptian economy, with
a move toward privatization. But when you started, the current free-market climate
didn't exist. Beyond that, ERTU is a shareholder in CNE. Did either of those factors
mean that you had to overcome a bureaucratic business climate?
Abu
Nuwar: It's something you have to keep in mind and to work with. Whenever
you're working with a government body there's an element of bureaucracy and inflexibility.
That may have been the case when we started but that changed very quickly, because
the terms of the business, the demands of the people involved in the private sector,
made it clear that the business can't afford to be bureaucratic, can't afford
to be slow in making decisions, and has to move forward. There's goodwill between
the parties, and everybody understands this.
Marketing,
sales, and distribution is really the engine of the business; everything else
is just systems: computer systems, transmission systems, satellite uplinking.
The operators have always been very understanding of our need to move quickly
on the marketing and distribution side, and have given us huge help. It surprised
people, maybe, that they allowed us to move into the market the way we did, but
they understood that we can't wait for committees to make decisions and sign papers.
And you do have to move very quickly in the market, because of competition coming
in and because of the way the market is reshaping itself.
The
1990s have been a new dawn in the Arab society in many ways. During the Gulf War
everybody wanted to see CNN. They paid huge amounts of money for dishes that would
become obsolete a few months later, just to be able to watch CNN. This is where
pay-TV started, and where people began to understand that you have to move with
the market, or ahead of it, as fast as you can in order to drive this business.
Otherwise you stay where you are, and you lose money. These government bodies
made money on these deals because they allowed the private sector partners to
enter the market. TBS
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